even president obama spoke out yesterday and said come on bring back the real refs. >> obama: it is just me or do we have to get our regular refs back -- >> oh, geez sir, i know you are busy -- >> obama: i can't get involved with it, but i'm expressing my point of view as a sports fan. >> bill: listen to this anti-union, scott walker governor of wisconsin, and anti-union paul ryan vice presidential candidate both came out yesterday and said we support the union refs. and here -- here is paul ryan. >> i mean, give me a break. [ laughter ] >> it is time to get the real refs. >> bill: the real receives back. those who really know the game. all you need to know is the guy who made that call monday night had never before refed any game more important than a junior college football game. >> that's amazing. >> bill: unbelievable. some of those refs also were deemed unqualified to ref games in the lingerie league. >> it is also perfect that this is the example that america will finally get. the war on teachers the war on public employees, this is what everybody will get. >> bill: yes. i'll be ba